Sunday, November 17, 2013

Ike Pappas



September 2, 2008, Alex Constantine's Blacklist, Ike Pappas, CBS Reporter who Broadcast Oswald Death, Dead at 75 / Was Pappas a CIA "Mockingbird" Perception Manager?,  Edited by A. Constantine

Veteran CBS correspondent and producer Ike Pappas worked closely with Walter Cronkite, a military intelligence asset recalled from Russia to take the job of anchor "Mockingbird" at CBS under Lawrence Tisch, a recruit to the cold war propaganda program assembled by the CIA's Allen Dulles. Pappas himself fits the Agency's perception management profile:
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• Pappas covered the murder of Lee Oswald, and knew Jack Ruby, a "chum": "Reporters such as Ike Pappas were much closer and saw immediately not only what had happened, but recognized Jack Ruby, since he liked to chum around with reporters. In fact, the night before, he had brought snacks to one of the local radio newsrooms. ... "
http://www.metafilter.com/67561/Oswald-has-been-shot
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• The 1990's--- Clint Hill believes that Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone gunman. [or so the narrator for the 1995 History Channel program entitled "The Secret Service," Ike Pappas, states. Although Hill is interviewed at length, he does not actually say this on the program, although he did agree to it during Mike Wallace's questioning back in 1975.]

See: Conspiracy Beliefs (and Denials) In High Places, by Vince Palamara

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The National Law Enforcement Museum in Washington dedication ceremony

CBS 1010WINSOne man who is not here tonight, and I wish he was, is Ike Pappas. Some of you may remember Ike, I asked Jim and he certainly did, and Ike Pappas was a CBS news correspondent on that fateful day when Lee Harvey Oswald was shot and killed. It was Ike who, actually, had stuck the microphone in his face at the moment of the shooting, and asked, "How do you feel, Lee?" And at that moment Jack Ruby shot him
Ike has done MUCH work for us over MANY years. [He] was the videographer, if you will, and documented the building of the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial. He did many of the voiceovers for the videos that we created for the memorial. Unfortunately, Ike died a couple of years ago.
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March 10, 1985, New York Times, (March 7, 1987). 14 Reporters among 215 Cut by CBS, by Peter J. Boyer,

Correction Appended: March 10, 1987, Tuesday, Late City Final Edition

More than 215 people, including 14 on-air reporters, were dismissed from their jobs by CBS News yesterday in the most severe cutback ever sustained by the news organization.

The dismissals reached every broadcast and ranged from young news assistants to such veteran correspondents as Ike Pappas, who since 1967 has covered the globe for CBS News.

Howard Stringer, the president of CBS News, who supervised the cutbacks in compliance with a request from CBS corporate headquarters, expressed regrets in a statement to his staff. "For those of you whose efforts and dedication to CBS News have been so ill-rewarded today," he said, "I can only offer my deepest regrets."

"For the rest of us," Mr. Stringer added, "our public trust must still override our private grief."

"CBS Morning News" may have been hardest hit, losing 28 people. The program's budget, about $20 million, is expected to be reduced by more than $5 million, according to reports at CBS.

"Sunday Morning" was also hit hard, losing five of its nine producers. "They've gutted us," said one journalist on that program.

"Up to the Minute," a series of short newscasts for children that runs on Saturday morning, will be eliminated and its staff of three dismissed.

'60 Minutes' Loses Five

Even "60 Minutes," the most successful program on television, was hit by the cutbacks, losing five producers.

The on-air correspondents released by CBS News are Mr. Pappas, who is based in Washington; David Andelman, based in Paris; Steve Young, a reporter based in New York; Bill Redeker, based in New York; Ned Potter, a Boston correspondent; Jane Bryant Quinn, an economics contributor to the ''Evening News''; Rick Fredericksen, based in Bangkok, Thailand; Derrick Blakely, based in Bonn; Karen Boros, a Chicago reporter; Chris Kelley, based in Washington; Jim McManus, an Atlanta correspondent; Mike O'Connor, a reporter based in Miami; Hampton Pearson, a reporter based in Washington, and Fred Graham, a law reporter in the Washington Bureau. Mr. Graham was put on the cutback list when it was learned that he was negotiating for an anchor job in his native Tennessee, according to CBS staff members.

The CBS News bureaus in Seattle, Bangkok and Warsaw will be closed.

"West 57th," the news-magazine program that is expected to go on the air this spring, will lose three producers, according to CBS people.

The decisions on whom to dismiss were made in late-night meetings this week by Mr. Stringer and his senior staff. According to officials at CBS News, the group considered each name on a list of candidates for dismissal and a decision by any member of the senior staff put that name on the list to be dismissed.

The final meeting lasted until 4 A.M. yesterday.

Rather Urges Staff to Bear Up

Dan Rather, whose "Evening News" staff lost its exclusive use of 21 producers in New York and Washington in the reorganization, met with his staff yesterday to urge them to bear up.

The dismissals, although expected, dealt another shock to a news organization reeling from a long series of setbacks - three rounds of dismissals in 18 months, two toppled managements in that same period and continuing uncertainty over the place of CBS News in a changing corporation. Also, the dismissals came in the midst of a strike by the Writers Guild of America, whose members have picketed in the chill outside the CBS Broadcast Center all week.

The cutbacks are based on a reorganization plan presented by Mr. Stringer after being asked for economies by Laurence A. Tisch, the chief executive officer of CBS. Some people at CBS News said yesterday that despite the severity of the current cuts, the possibility of additional cuts remained.
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• He went on to cover the CIA and Pengaton for CBS. Example:

CBS Evening News for Wednesday, Oct 15, 1975,
Program Time: 05:31:40 pm - 05:33:20 pm. Duration: 01:40

(Studio) CIA Director William Colby at meeting of Associated Press managing eds. says CIA dragged its foot with regard to Watergate.
REPORTER: Walter Cronkite

(Williamsburg, Virginia) Colby says CIA delayed giving prosecutors Watergate information because afraid would sensationalize any CIA link with Watergate. Several arrested were ex-CIA men and White House asked CIA to limit FBI's investigation. [COLBY - says there was undue amount of secrecy. Doesn't want nation to think CIA actually conducted operation.] Colby believes CIA's overall record is positive. Says he'll resign any time Ford thinks he can't be useful.
REPORTER: Ike Pappas
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• Pappas, to his credit, did some fine reporting in his lifetime - including this report on a Nazi doctor in the U.S. - although this could be interpreted as containment, a limited hang-out to keep a lid on Operation Paperclip: "Crimewatch Tonight. Ike Pappas reports on the case of vicious Nazi doctor Vilis Kruze who practiced in the U.S. and caused brain damage. ... "

The Nizkor Project: Shofar FTP Archive File: people/h/hoffman.michael/1994/hoffman.9410
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Pappas, DoD and the Vietnam War Bandwagon:

" ... When Ike Pappas put together a broadcast of "Songs of War" for CBS in 1967, he used material sent to him by the Public Information Officers of various units. Many singers and performing groups were sent on tour by Special Services. In 1965 Hershel Gober and his band the Black Patches were the first performers to go on tour for Command Military Touring Shows. (CMTS). Later in the war Bill Ellis, who wrote songs about the First Cavalry Division, did a tour for CMTS and later went to Japan to cut an EP record for the Cav Public Information Office, a copy of which was given to each member of the division in 1968. ... Colonel Joe Starker (11 CAB) arranged to have Mike Staggs transferred to the 173rd Assault Helicopter Company so he could sing with the Merrymen. ... "
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* Ike Pappas was embedded with the National Guard at Kent State at the time of the shootings: " ... Ike Pappas, a CBS reporter who had come to campus after the ROTC fire Saturday. Pappas had been given complete access to tag along with the Guard ... "

http://209.85.141.104/search?q=cache:KjtKfTY4hSAJ:www.clevescene.com/2000-05-04/news/the-shootings/3+%22ike+pappas%22+a+shill&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=34&gl=us
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Ike Pappas, who broadcast Oswald death, dead at 75

NEW YORK (AP) — Ike Pappas, a longtime CBS newsman who reported the shooting death of presidential assassin Lee Harvey Oswald on the radio as it was happening, has died at age 75. Pappas died Sunday in a hospital in Arlington, Virginia, of complications of heart disease, his family said.

Pappas was among the reporters at the Dallas police station waiting for Oswald to be moved two days after President Kennedy was assassinated. Pappas had just asked him, "You have anything to say in your defense?" when a shot rang out.

"Oswald has been shot!" Pappas said on the air, adding, "Mass confusion here, all the doors have been locked. Holy mackerel!"

Pappas was among more than 200 CBS News employees laid off by the company in 1987.
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Mahalo.com, Ike Pappas Dead

Longtime news reporter, documentaryfilmmaker, and sometime actor Icarus N. "Ike" Pappas died of a heart ailment on September 1, 2008. Ike Pappas was a 30-year-old reporter for CBS News when he witnessed the murder of Lee Harvey Oswald by Jack Ruby. Oswald was being transferred from the Dallas County Courthouse after being accused of the assassination of American President John F. Kennedy when restaurateur Ruby shot him. Pappas asked Oswald "Do you have anything to say in your defense?" just before the shooting.

Quotes

"Oswald has been shot! Mass confusion here, all the doors have been locked. Holy mackerel!" Ike Pappas, reporting on the death of Lee Harvey Oswald 1
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September 2 2008, Dallas Observer, Holy Mackerel! Reporter Who Broadcast Oswald's Murder Dead at 75, by Robert Wilonsky,

Ike Pappas was working as a newsman for CBS' radio operations on November 24, 1963, when he was sent to the basement of Dallas Police Department HQ to cover the transfer of Lee Harvey Oswald. The shooting of Oswald by Jack Ruby was captured on film, of course, but Pappas' audio remains equally famous for two reasons: Pappas asked Oswald for a comment the split second before Ruby shot him ("You have anything to say in your defense?"), and moments later he uttered a breathless "Holy mackerel!" Noted this morning because Pappas died in a Virgina hospital yesterday from heart disease at the age of 75. --Robert Wilonsky
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September 2, 2008, The Washington Times - AP, Ike Pappas, who broadcast Oswald death, dead at 75, by Richard Pyle,

Originally published 02:45 p.m., September 2, 2008, updated 02:24 p.m., September 2, 2008

NEW YORK (AP) - Ike Pappas, a longtime CBS newsman who was a few feet from presidential assassin Lee Harvey Oswald when he was fatally shot and reported the chaotic scene live on the air, has died at 75.

Pappas, who also covered major events like the Vietnam War and anti-war demonstrations at home, died Sunday in an Arlington, Va., hospital of complications from heart disease, his family said.

A New York City native, Pappas was in Dallas after John F. Kennedy's Nov. 22, 1963, assassination, reporting for New York radio station WNEW, when police brought the manacled Oswald into the police station basement two days later to be transferred to the jail.

He had just asked the suspect, "You have anything to say in your defense?" when someone shoved Pappas, a gunshot sounded and Oswald crumpled, mortally wounded.

"There's a shot! Oswald has been shot! Oswald has been shot!" Pappas said on the air. "A shot rang out. Mass confusion here, all the doors have been locked. Holy mackerel!"

"One of the wildest scenes I've ever seen," he said seconds later.

The person who had elbowed Pappas aside turned out to be Jack Ruby, the nightclub owner who was convicted of killing Oswald. Pappas told the story in testimony at Ruby's trial and later to the Warren Commission that investigated the Kennedy assassination.

Born April 16, 1933, Icarus N. Pappas served in the U.S. Army, joined CBS News as a radio writer in 1964 and became a network correspondent in 1967. Besides the Vietnam War, he covered the 1967 Six Day War in Israel, the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr. in 1968, the Kent State shootings in 1970, and coups in Greece, Bolivia and Chile, according to records provided by CBS.

Based in Washington, he was assigned to cover the Pentagon, the CIA, labor and other beats. One of 200 CBS News employees laid off by the network in 1987, he formed his own video production company, known as Ike Inc., writing and producing TV documentaries for PBS and other outlets.

In 1988 he made his film debut, portaying a reporter in the Paul Mazursky-directed comedy "Moon Over Parador" that starred Richard Dreyfuss.

Pappas lived in McLean, Va. He is survived by his wife, Carolyn; two sons, Theodore and Alexander; a daughter, Sarah Thomason; and two grandchildren.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B0DE6D7103FF93AA35750C0A961948260
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http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0660599/

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0660599/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm#trivia

IMDb,
Ike Pappas,
Date of Birth: 16 April 1933, Flushing, New York, USA
Date of Death: 31 August 2008, Arlington, Virginia, USA (complications from heart disease)
Birth: Name Icarus Nestor Papademetriou
Spouse: Carolyn Hoffman (1963 - 31 August2008) (his death) 3 children
Trivia:
Father-in-law of Sibila Vargas.
Father of Alex Pappas.
While working for radio station WNEW, he provided live coverage of the shooting of presidential assassin Lee Harvey Oswald by Jack Ruby.
Longtime CBS News correspondent.
Joined CBS News as a radio writer in 1964 and became a network correspondent in 1967.
Served in the U.S. Army.
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TelevisionNewsCenter.org, Ike Pappas Bio
Journalist, producer and executive Ike Pappas began his professional life as a local (New York) radio reporter and continued on to become an award-winning CBS-News Correspondent, covering many of the major events that shaped global history from the mid 20th Century to the present.

During his 25-year tenure at the network, Pappas was seen on the "CBS Evening News" with both Walter Cronkite and Dan Rather, reporting nightly on events ranging from the battlefields in Vietnam to the Six-Day War in the Middle East, the murder of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., the U.S. Space Program, the CIA and the Defense Department as Chief Pentagon Correspondent. He also served as Congressional and Labor Correspondent.

Pappas' career has been punctuated by many eyewitness "firsts", among them the pursuit of Cuban Communist leader Che Guevara in Bolivia, the terrorist bombing of La Guardia Airport and the Israeli invasion of Syria in 1967. He visited more than 40 countries, traveled hundreds of thousands of miles and often put his life on the line while gathering news.

In 1988, he left the network to establish his own video production company, recognized within the industry for its excellence and creativity. Known simply as "Ike Inc.”, the company was merged in 2001 with a video streaming company, which Pappas currently serves as a consultant.

In addition, he continues to write and narrate television documentaries, including "Dreams of Flight: To the Moon and Beyond," the story of Apollo 11, created for the Public Broadcasting System and Smithsonian Institution Museums and "The Greek Americans,” also for PBS.

Pappas remains in demand as a leading lecturer on college campuses and cruise lines and at national events and business meetings. He is also a staff instructor for Washington’s Television News Center, which prepares students for careers in television and radio news and production.

While attending Long Island University in the early 50’s Pappas edited the student newspaper while also working as a caption writer for United Press International . Pappas began his on-air career in the late 1950’s as a reporter for WNEW-Radio in New York. There, he provided the world with a dramatic account of the murder of Lee Harvey Oswald by Jack Ruby in Dallas, Texas in November, 1963 in the tumultuous days following the assassination of President Kennedy.

His report, done as he stood only inches from Ruby and Oswald, has become an historic broadcast, included in numerous books and recordings and in the permanent collections of the Museum of Broadcasting in New York, The Texas Historical Society and the "Newseum" in Washington, DC.

Additional recognition he has received both in and out of broadcasting include the Ellis Island Medal of Honor, an Emmy nomination, the Silver Circle award of the National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences , the CINE Golden Eagle, the Intercom Award of the International Film and Video Competition and, among many others, the Medal of St. Paul plus the Order of St. Andrew of the Greek Orthodox Church for his charity work.

Pappas has portrayed himself in four motion pictures, among them "Moon over Parador" with Richard Dreyfuss, "The Package" with Gene Hackman and "Matinee" with John Goodman.
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September 2, 2008, USA Today, Ike Pappas, who broadcast Oswald death, dead at 75,



NEW YORK (AP)— Ike Pappas, a longtime CBS newsman who reported the shooting death of presidential assassin Lee Harvey Oswald on the radio as it was happening, has died at age 75.

Pappas died Sunday in a hospital in Arlington, Va., of complications of heart disease, his family said.

Pappas was among the reporters at the Dallas police station waiting for Oswald to be moved two days after President Kennedy was assassinated. Pappas had just asked him, "You have anything to say in your defense?" when a shot rang out.

"Oswald has been shot!" Pappas said on the air, adding, "Mass confusion here, all the doors have been locked. Holy mackerel!"

Pappas was among more than 200 CBS News employees laid off by the company in 1987.
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https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-7389.html?s=4fd8c09e31b165465acf9cb625b1f518

Bernice Moore
Ruby-Oswald Shooting Photographer ( Robert JACKSON) Says 'No Blood Anywhere'

Magda Hassan
Yeah, there were so many sub-plots that day and the following days.....I consider it quite likely LHO was murdered in the ambulance, in which he thought he was making a clean get-away with the aid of friends and handlers...:spy:
Isn't ruby shooting him..easier?...
This was bought up on my FB group the other week..I just cannot see a scenario that makes sense..besides what we see, live, on Television...
But that doesn't make sense either does it? It was unbelievable...crazy...especially after what had just happened. I'm not saying that Ruby didn't do it just that the whole thing is crazy.

Ed Jewett
One fallacy in this thread and perhaps others is the attempted application of logic inside an event run by the state security apparati and their friends.

Can we think that they think logically when they deeply immersed in pathological, delusional, cult-like or occult or other forms of bizarre thinking in which they think they can control someone with truth serum, or read his mind, or remotely view his "space" with or without coordinates, or any of a dozen other high weirdnesses?

The impression one gets in reading in depth is that the sponsors, facilitators and high priests are spoiled, inbred, puerile, amoral and lacking in other normal human attributes. Can we really expect them to think logically? Magical thinking, perhaps... or worse.

If Oswald's basement attack was false or faked, perhaps it was because they wanted one or two final pieces of information from him and thought they could squeeze it out of him in a short ambulance ride.

Charles Drago
Calm down, everyone.

As the 50th anniversary approaches, the accessories to JFK's murder will engage in ever more sophisticated disinformation campaigns. Among them will be efforts to lure respected researchers onto paths that lead not to significant evidentiary discoveries, but only to ridicule sufficient to maintain our cultural marginalization.

Speaking of lures: From the Rense story we have this quote --

"'When growing up in Irving, Texas (suburb of Dallas) my neighbor was Dr. Charles Baxter M.D., the Parkland Hospital coordinating surgeon on John Kennedy,' said ["long time JFK truth advocate" Brian David] Andersen. 'On November 23 1974, while I was photographing a hand surgery being conducted by the doctor, Baxter explicated and thoroughly detailed all of the events that occurred related to him regarding the treatment of Kennedy that was purposely excluded from the Warren Commission Report. The truth is so more outlandish than any kind of fiction.'"

Where are our instincts? Does this not all stink?

A certain weakness of our "community" is being exploited here. I speak of a shared tendency to over-complicate scenarios to the point where they are indistinguishable from Hollywood script pitches.

At least one regular poster on DPF -- a person whose intentions are, to my mind, noble -- is disastrously prone to such acts.

As stated elsewhere, I understand that intelligence operations by their nature not only are impervious to dissection by Occam's razor, they are in fact designed to be enhanced by applications thereof.

(To my knowledge, this perspective originates with me. Why has it taken so long to appear? Why has the Occam's razor canard not been previously challenged? Is the struggle more desireable than the victory? But that's a story for another campfire.)

And so we have been handed two new mysteries sure to consume vital energy and taint reputations.

Calm down, everyone.

Betty Chruscielski

I have wondered, how could Ruby kill Oswald in cold blood when they knew each other before the assassination? If Ruby thought, I'll just shoot him with a rubber bullet then we'll take care of him later, it would be a much easier act to carry through. The reason I say a rubber bullet is because on that one picture of Oswald sewn up after the autopsy there is a circular bruise on his left lower rib area. A gunshot leaves a puncture wound not evidence of blunt force trauma.
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September 5, 2008, The Turner Report, From Pam Avery at our Western Office, a tribute to Ike Pappas:

History will remember Ike Pappas, who died in Arlington, Va. on Sunday, as the CBS news correspondent whose on-the-spot coverage of Jack Ruby shooting Lee Harvey Oswald, JFK's assassin, rocked an already shell-shocked nation. And it was his voice heard 'round the world announcing in awe humankind's first walk on the moon. Ike covered Vietnam, national and international disasters and much more until he was unceremoniously dumped by CBS in the late 1980s for having a "face fit for radio, rather than TV." What many don't know is that fighting Greek that he was, Ike picked himself up and created Ike Pappa Productions, producing and narrating some of the finest documentaries -- including a stellar series on NASA's mission to the moon -- in the country. I met Ike while searching for a host for my nationally syndicated radio program, EarthWire. Ike became more than the host. He became the de facto executive producer, a business partner, and my mentor. His sonorous voice commanded attention and respect. No EarthWire script passed his lips until it had been polished into a verbal gemstone by Ike. He was a master of the fine phrase; but more, he was a stickler for the truth, which was reflected in his news coverage, his documentaries, and in every episode of EarthWire.

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November 16, 2013, NBC News, Ike Pappas, former CBS News correspondent, dies,

Sept. 2: During a nearly 25-year career with CBS News, Ike Pappas covered everything from wars to politics to space shots. He died Tuesday at the age of 75. NBC's Brian Williams reports.
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September 2, 2008, New York Times, Ike Pappas, a Newsman With a Long Career at CBS, Dies at 75, by Bruce Weber,

Ike Pappas, a television correspondent who covered the Vietnam War and the assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., but who is best remembered for being an arm’s length from Lee Harvey Oswald when he was killed and reporting the event live to listeners of WNEW radio in New York, died on Sunday in Arlington, Va.

He was 75 and lived in McLean, Va.

The cause was congestive heart failure, said his wife, Carolyn Hoffman Pappas.

Mr. Pappas had a 25-year career at CBS, including stints covering the Pentagon and Congress as well as myriad foreign wars. He appeared frequently on the evening news with Walter Cronkite and, later, Dan Rather.

In 1987, he became a symbol of downsizing in the television news business when his was the most prominent of 215 jobs eliminated by the network. By then, his face was familiar enough that he was hired to play himself in at least two movies, “Moon Over Parador” (1988) and “The Package” (1989).

He also started his own production company for news programming, for which he felt he had a made-to-order labor pool.

“If you’ve been fired by the network, then you’re the person for me,” Mr. Pappas said in announcing the company’s formation.

On Nov. 24, 1963, two days after President John F. Kennedy was shot in Dallas, Mr. Pappas was one of dozens of reporters waiting in the basement of police headquarters for Mr. Oswald to pass through on his way to the county jail. When Mr. Oswald emerged, Mr. Pappas blurted a question — “Do you have anything to say in your defense?” — and in the next instant, Jack Ruby brushed by him and shot Mr. Oswald in the gut.

At Mr. Ruby’s trial, he contradicted a police offer who had testified that Mr. Ruby yelled an epithet at Mr. Oswald as he shot. He never heard Mr. Ruby say that, Mr. Pappas testified.
Icarus Nestor Pappas was born on April 16, 1933, in New York City, in the Flushing section of Queens. His parents, Greek immigrants, owned a delicatessen. After graduating from Long Island University, he spent two years in the Army, serving in Germany, at first, his wife said, as a truck driver. His career in journalism got off to a serendipitous start.

"After he wrecked three trucks, they reassigned him to work on 'Stars and Stripes,'" she said.

In addition to his wife, whom he married in 1963, Mr. Pappas is survived by a brother, Demetrios, known as Jim, of Manhattan; a sister, Christina Davidson of Beverly Hills, Calif.; two sons, Alexander, of Sugar Land, Tex., and Theodore, of Newport Beach, Calif.; a daughter, Sara Thomason of Greenville, S.C.; and two grandchildren.

On that memorable day in Dallas, it took a moment for Mr. Pappas to get his bearings.

"There's a shot!" he said on the air, and his breathing grew labored as havoc obviously overtook the scene. "Oswald has been shot. Oswald has been shot. A shot rang out. Mass confusion here. All the doors have been locked."

There was a tense pause.

"Holy mackerel," Mr. Pappas said.
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Congress Oversees the United States Intelligence Community, 1947-1994, by Frank John Smist,
page 380
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1993 Seminar Video Featuring Tony Zoppi, Ike Pappas, Bob Jackson, and Others

As far as Ike Pappas' WNEW-Radio recording of Oswald's murder, I know nothing more than what Pappas himself said in the 1993 SMU conference video, which has Pappas talking about how his "holy mackerel" comment was not uttered until sometime after he had departed the DPD basement. I think Pappas said he was on a stairway somewhere in City Hall when he said "holy mackerel".

Actually, Pappas said the words "holy mackerel" twice on his famous 11/24/63 tape recording. He says it once very shortly after Ruby shot Oswald (or at least I always thought that was done "live" at that time, but apparently, per Mr. Pappas in '93, it was recorded a little while later)....and the recording ends with Pappas saying "holy mackerel" again. Those are the very last words on the 5-minute version of the recording that I currently possess (which can be heard at the link below):

http://www.Box.net/shared/9hwuvpkows

So I'm not sure whether Pappas, in 1993, meant that BOTH of his "holy mackerels" were edited into the earlier part of the recording, or perhaps just the first one. Or: it's possible Ike had forgotten that he said those words TWICE, and not just once.

A LITTLE MORE ABOUT IKE PAPPAS:

Pappas was making fun of himself at the 1993 Dallas journalists conference due to the fact that he shouted "Oswald has been shot!" immediately after Ruby plugged Lee Harvey (or "Lee Harold", according to Bob Huffaker; more on Huffaker later in this post). ~wink~

But, in my opinion, Pappas' "Oswald has been shot!" verbiage was perfect. But Ike seems to think he should have come up with something more eloquent at that moment. I disagree. Pappas said just the right thing. And when you think about it for a minute, what the heck ELSE was Ike supposed to say to convey what had just occurred before his very eyes?

After not getting an answer from Oswald following the question that Pappas yelled at the DPD's famous prisoner ("Do you have anything to say in your defense?", which were probably the last words Oswald ever
heard in his life)....should Pappas have said into his tape recorder: "I wonder why Oswald didn't answer me? There's not much else going on here that I can see"???

About the only thing that seems a little bit strange to me when listening to the Ike Pappas recording is when Pappas asks the French reporter (who was also a witness to the shooting), "What happened?"

It seemed kind of odd that Mr. Pappas would need to ask anyone else "what happened?" after Ike himself had just seen Oswald shot right before his very own eyes. Perhaps the event was so incredible, Ike felt he just couldn't BELIEVE his very own eyes at that exact moment. ;)

For what it's worth, I regard Ike Pappas' live coverage of Lee Harvey Oswald's murder as one of the finest off-the-cuff "spot reports" in history. It's right up there with Andrew West's live radio coverage of Robert F. Kennedy's assassination in 1968. You can hear West's amazing recording at the link below:

http://DVP-Potpourri.blogspot.com/2009/11/rfk-assassination.html

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RE: THE KBOX RE-CREATION......

Getting back to KRLD's Bob Huffaker again -- In May of 2006, I had a few e-mail conversations with Mr. Huffaker regarding the events in Dallas in November 1963, and the topic of the KBOX-Radio coverage came up.

Bob told me at that time in 2006 that he was pretty certain that virtually all of the famous (and seemingly-"live") audio footage from KBOX on 11/22/63 was actually recorded in a studio sometime later that day (or possibly a day or two after the assassination, I can't remember which it was now).

Unfortunately, I no longer have access to those 2006 e-mails, due to a crash of my computer's hard drive on January 31, 2007, which wiped out my e-mail's filing cabinet (much to my dismay).

But I definitely recall Mr. Huffaker telling me that it was his belief that most (or all) of the famous KBOX audio coverage by Sam Pate and Ron Jenkins that we hear today was not put on the air live on November
22, 1963.


Via the website linked below, which contains a lot of information about KBOX's history, it would seem as though KBOX did indeed broadcast some bulletins live from Dealey Plaza and Stemmons Freeway on 11/22/63, although Bob Huffaker seems to think otherwise, according to the things he told me in 2006.

But even this KBOX webpage seems to be a little confused about what was broadcast live and what was recorded in a studio at a later time:

http://www.knus99.com/kbox1480pt2.html
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http://www.JFK-Assassination-As-It-Happened.blogspot.com

http://www.Box.net/static/flash/box_explorer.swf?widgetHash=7x7co2jkkg
Pierce Allman Reports on the Shooting (WFAA-Radio)
Interview with L.J. Lewis (WFAA-Radio)
Interview with Charles Brehm
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https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.obituaries/N7CgWd6A-Tg

September 2, 2008, CBS News, Former CBS Newsman Ike Pappas Dead At 75

Live Report Of Lee Harvey Oswald's Murder Garnered National Attention,



The undated photo shows Ike Pappas, the longtime CBS News correspondent whose work included a live report on Lee Harvey Oswald's murder. Pappas died Sunday, Aug. 31, 2008. (CBS)

(CBS) Ike Pappas, the longtime CBS News correspondent whose live radio report of Lee Harvey Oswald's murder following the assassination of John F. Kennedy secured him a special role in history, died Sunday of heart failure in Virginia Hospital Center in Arlington. He was 75.

During his 23-year career at CBS News, Pappas covered wars, political events and the civil rights protests of the 1960s. But perhaps the defining moment of his journalistic career came as a radio reporter for WNEW New York covering Oswald's prison transfer in 1963.

As he asked Oswald a question, Jack Ruby brushed past Pappas to shoot and kill Oswald. "Oswald has been shot … mass confusion," reported Pappas during his live broadcast, which also captured Oswald's last words. Pappas later offered key testimony at Ruby's trial and appeared before the Warren Commission investigating Kennedy's assassination. "The man in the white raincoat," as he was identified, was also an integral part of the best-selling record album about the tragedy, "Four Days That Shocked the World."

Pappas joined CBS News 11 months later in October 1964 as a writer and reporter for the radio series "Dimensions." He also served as a general assignment reporter covering major stories including the 1964 presidential election, the historic Selma civil rights march and racial troubles in New York City.

He was named a CBS News correspondent in May of 1967 after returning from a seven-month assignment covering the Vietnam War. Based in Chicago, he reported on several key stories for “The CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite” including the funeral of former President Harry S. Truman, the assassination and funeral of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and college campus unrest.

Pappas was on the Kent State University campus with a CBS News film crew when the Ohio National Guard shot four students in May 1970. He also covered the Six Day War in 1967 and the launch of Apollo 11 from Cape Kennedy in July 1969.

In 1970, while reporting on the civil war in Jordan, Pappas was detained along with several other journalists and held in a hotel during some of the conflict.

Pappas served as a Pentagon correspondent for seven years beginning in 1975. During this time, he went overseas to cover the conflict in Lebanon, reporting the advance of Israeli troops into Beirut. In 1985, he became the CBS News congressional correspondent.

He began his career as a magazine writer and then became a reporter for United Press International before joining WNEW Radio in New York in 1958.

Pappas left CBS News in 1987 as one of more than a dozen on-air reporters and 200 other staffers laid off in a cost-cutting move by new ownership.

In the following years, he started his own television production company, Papas Network Productions, through which he produced fundraising videos and local programming, including “Crimewatch Tonight,” a syndicated nightly crime report he anchored himself. He also worked to create entertainment television programming and provided media coaching to individuals. Of his separation from CBS News, Pappas told Electronic Media in 1988: “I come from a line of Greek people who have always greeted tough times with a determination to make things better. I took a negative and turned it into a positive and I couldn'’t be happier.”

Pappas made an appearance in the 1988 comedy, “Moon Over Parador,” playing himself in the film starring Richard Drefuss and Raul Julia. This led to another appearance as himself in the Gene Hackman - Tommy Lee Jones film “The Package” the next year.

Born Nestor Papademetriou in Queens, NY on April 16, 1933, Pappas attended local schools before graduating from Long Island University. He served in the U.S. Army in Germany from 1954-56, contributing to the Armed Forces Network and Stars and Stripes.

He is survived by his wife of 45 years, the former Carolyn Hoffman of Pekin, Il.; three children: Theodore of Newport Beach, Calif.; Alexander of Sugarland, Texas; and Sarah Thomason of Greenville, SC.; and two grandchildren: Christos and Nicholas Pappas.
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1 comment:

Art, Music and History said...

Sometime between 1988 and 1994 Ike Pappas hosted a TV show which did a "this day in history" kind of thing. For some reason the name "Time Tunnel" keeps popping up in my head, though I am pretty sure that was not the name. It was an interesting program and it seems like it was an hour long, though it could have been in the 30 minute format. I watched it on some on air broadcasting station in Columbus, Ohio during that time period. It came on in the morning, like around 10 or 11 am. Seems like it may have aired on the local FOX affiliate (WTTE?).

Does anyone remember any details about this show (the actual name, even)? I know I am not crazy but I cannot find any information about it, anywhere. It was an excellent show.